The CPU on the #PinePhone is indeed very slow. Yet we should not forget that #Pine64 has been doing a great job while fighting an uphill battle to deliver a phone that allows for a FOSS software stack. Due to uncooperative OEMs, NDAs, etc building the typical closed phone is much easier.

@federico @Daniel Barlow this. but also: does its performance *feel* slow? I don't have an android phone for comparison, but to me the only complaint for daily tasks would be the time taken by megapixels to convert / save a picture (and I suspect that's not strictly an hardware speed issue), everything else feels quite usable.

Unless of course somebody wants to use android on it, but then I agree that the pinephone is probably not the best hardware choice, since it targets mostly the people who *don't* want to use android.

it feels *painfully* slow, to the extent that I'm almost wondering if I got a dud one. Slow as in "takes so long to launch the calls app that I worry the caller will have rung off and gone to voicemail". Slow as in "ssh over wifi feels like connnecting to a US host did in the 1990s internet". Slow as in "tens of seconds to launch a web browser". Slow as in "did it even register that touch?".

I know all about FOSS vs closed ecosystems, which is exactly why I bought it. And I've been running Linux as my primary computing environment since Slackware was The New Thing, so I can accept a certain "lack of polish". But, you know, there's a continuum between "it just works" , and "it just about works", and right now I'm unable even to put this thing on the scale.

@Daniel Barlow @federico ouch