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I have personally found it impossible to get friends with iOS on #xmpp whereas friends with Android were happy to join via #Quicksy. We are raising funds to build Prav App on iOS, please contribute and spread the word. https://opencollective.com/prav-ios

Since we announced the campaign, Monal developers announced they will be building the Quicksy variant so that is less work for us to fund (we still need to develop support for custom usernames and also pay #Apple for publishing).

in reply to Pirate Praveen

As a Free Software advocate I know apple is on the exact opposite side for the values we stand for. But I don't want iOS users spoil adoption of XMPP as a single contact on iOS dis-proportionally affects XMPP adoption. Even though right to modify a software is a fundamental right for any Free Software, exercising this right is not very easy in practice. #FreeSoftware #XMPP #Apple #OpenSource
in reply to Pirate Praveen

Since only a small percentage of Free Software users are developers, even smaller percentage of users who know or comfortable with a particular programming language. So raising funds and paying someone is an important aspect of exercising our right to modify.

Thanks to @ravi and @thej for kick-starting the fund raiser.

#freesoftware #XMPP

in reply to Pirate Praveen

Many times people say they don't like SMS OTP, but what they seem to miss out is, unlike software that runs independently on our devices without a server or don't need to interact with others, a messaging app choice is much more complicated. Looking at it as a binary of either
1. making the exact compromise of using centralized platforms for our contacts or
2. staying isolated on our federated platforms (#Matrix, #xmpp)
is not really scaling up or we are losing out.
in reply to Pirate Praveen

We need to offer a choice of exactly the same convenience or exactly the same control of self hosting and still being connected with each other. #Quicksy is a brilliant hack that makes this possible - offers the same user experience as centralized messengers for people who want it but still being federated with any #XMPP service at the same time so people who are not happy with sharing their phone numbers or using another service can even self host and still talk to Quicksy users.

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